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标  题: Eric S Raymond想对中国的Linux应用说些什么呢?
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Fri Jan  7 11:07:57 2000)

      An Unfortunate Part of Eric Raymond's China Message
   Posted by: Bruce Perens on Thursday November 11, @11:39AM

   In this message Eric Raymond writes that a story about China adopting
   Linux as its official OS is a fraud. It is a fraud, and Eric is
   functioning appropriately as a spokesperson within the free software
   community when he says so. Eric's been doing a pretty good job lately,
   and I appreciate that. Unfortunately, Eric writes:

     It may be too much to hope that this statement will head off a
     flurry of snide opinion pieces divagating about "open-source
     communism"; the clumsy rhetoric of some of our past ambassadors may
     have made that outcome inevitable.

   Experienced observers in the free software community will note that
   Eric can't help engaging in one of his favorite pastimes, taking a jab
   at Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation. The problem with
   this is that Stallman is emphaticaly not a communist. In Stallman's
   own words: Karl Marx didn't invent helping your neighbor. It's true,
   however, that references to communism are often used to discredit many
   of the best things about community spirit. We don't want to see that
   strategy used against Linux, but Eric engages in that himself by
   deprecating Stallman in his China message, a message in which he
   deliberately takes on the mantle of speaking for the entire community.
   That's unfortunate.

   In order to deflect talk of Linux being a "communist enterprise", we
   need to be clear about the relationship of Free Software (Open Source)
   to communism. Free software does create a "commons": a sort of
   publicly-owned property, collectively maintained for the good of all.
   Karl Marx didn't invent that either, it's a critical aspect of every
   community, and most capitalistic enterprises would wither without a
   publicly-owned infrastructure to support them. Consider, for example,
   that money is part of that infrastructure. That's the message I'd like
   to carry to the press: having a commons, helping our neighbors, and
   protecting our freedoms should not be equated to communism.

   Thanks

   Bruce Perens

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我只是很伤心ESR先生的看法. 咱们是否联名给他? 让他知道我们这些fans是真正
支持的呢? 管他什么狗屁的官方政府.
Eric S Raymond先生的原文如下:
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   Eric S. Raymond -- Communist China adopts Linux? Not so, apparently...
   Nov 11, 1999, 04:07 UTC (137 Talkbacks) (Other stories by Eric S.
   Raymond)

   By Eric S. Raymond

   In a November 10th Yahoo-UK story
   http://uk.news.yahoo.com/991110/22/ax8w.html, the government of
   Communist China is alleged to have said that Linux will be adopted by
   that country as its official OS and that "There is a strong
   identification between communist China and the open-source free OS"
   Authority for this statement is traced to a press release by GraphOn
   www.graphon.com.

   This story appears to be untrue. The only GraphOn press release I can
   find that mentions China is
   http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-china991102.html from 2 Nov. This is a
   routine announcement of a partnership with a private firm in Hainan.
   There is no mention of any Chinese government sponsorship or action to
   make Linux "official".

   In the past, I have avoided presuming to speak for the whole Linux
   community. This time, however, I think I may safely say that this news
   will come as a vast relief to all of us. Insofar as it has politics at
   all, the open-source movement promotes freedom, increased choice, and
   *voluntary* cooperation. Any "identification" between the values of
   the open-source community and the repressive practices of Communism is
   nothing but a a vicious and cynical fraud.

   There are a few of us who have a soft spot for the theoretical
   Communist ideal of "from each according to his ability, to his each
   according to his need"; but I am certain that even that minority would
   not care to be associated with the totalitarian and murderous
   government of Communist China -- unrepentant perpetrators of numerous
   atrocities against its own people.

   It may be too much to hope that this statement will head off a flurry
   of snide opinion pieces divagating about "open-source communism"; the
   clumsy rhetoric of some of our past ambassadors may have made that
   outcome inevitable. But the prospect of being "identified" with the
   bloody-handed gerontocrats behind the Tianamen Square massacre would
   be, I believe, genuinely revolting and insulting to all of us.

   No matter that such official Chinese government sponsorship might add
   a quarter of the planet's population to our user base; if this is
   "world domination", we'll want none of it.

   --
   Eric S. Raymond

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